C++17 Automotive Coding Standards

[gpalmer-latai]

Hi!

With the proposed upgrade to C++17, I was curious what peoples thoughts/stories are about using Iceoryx in Codebases that need to adhere to some automotive C++ standards.

Currently, the only officially published standards are AUTOSAR C++14 and MISRA 2008. MISRA will apparently come out with some C++17 standards any day now (for the past couple of years), but there is still no official word when. I wonder what other folk's approaches are for asserting that their code lives up to some standard.

[elBoberido]

I'm not quite sure but I think many tools already support the latest draft for MISRA C++17 rules. I guess that's what most of them will use.

@mossmaurice AFAIK you had some contact with Peter Sommerlad. Is there something you can share?

[sbellon]

Axivion Suite has incorporated rules from the upcoming MISRA-C++202x standard already starting with release 7.5.0 one year ago. Over the time we have added more rules and with the upcoming release 7.7.0 we will have ~2/3 rule coverage and will continue to expand until we have full coverage.

[elBoberido]

@sbellon thanks for the quick response

[mossmaurice]

@gpalmer-latai

Currently, the only officially published standards are AUTOSAR C++14 and MISRA 2008. MISRA will apparently come out with some C++17 standards any day now (for the past couple of years), but there is still no official word when.

I was part of the official reviewer group for MISRA-C++:202x which took place in Q3/Q4 2022. To me, it was already in a solid state, considering and referring to C++17 and C++20 features on several occasions and hence much better suited for projects like iceoryx using modern C++ than the previous rulesets or the AUTOSAR one ❤️

Is the latest draft available somewhere?

Similarly to the previous MISRA rulesets, I suppose this is not freely available due to licensing topics. I think you need to contact the MISRA org, but INAL.

@elBoberido

AFAIK you had some contact with Peter Sommerlad. Is there something you can share?

No, I did not (yet). My latest status is the following from the article he wrote on heise.de end of 2020. Let me just ping him here :-)

@PeterSommerlad Thanks for your great work on the MISRA-C++:202x ruleset! Do you have an ETA for its release or could provide a contact to ask (possibly via a private message)?

[gpalmer-latai]

Thanks for the feedback! This is all great information.

[sbellon]

Just to follow up: Axivion Suite 7.7 with support for the initial 2/3 of the MISRA-C++:2023 rules is released now, full coverage to be expected in release 7.8.

[PeterSommerlad]

Hi all, wrt to MISRA-C++:2023 (addressing C++17) the release is really around the corner. You can monitor their shop https://misra.org.uk/shop/ when the document becomes available. It really should happen within the next two weeks afaik. While behind a paywall, the price is reasonable enough to get a PDF (GBP15) and even the hard-copies are sold by print-on-demand for more or less cost-coverage (MISRA-C is GBP45). Regards Peter. Simon Hoinkis wrote on 07.11.23 11:07:

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@gpalmer-latai <https://github.com/gpalmer-latai> Currently, the only officially published standards are AUTOSAR C++14 and MISRA 2008. MISRA will apparently come out with some C++17 standards any day now (for the past couple of years), but there is still no official word when. I was part of the official reviewer group for MISRA-C++:202x which took place in Q3/Q4 2022. To me, it was already in a solid state, considering and referring to C++17 and C++20 features on several occasions and hence much better suited for projects like iceoryx using modern C++ than the previous rulesets or the AUTOSAR one ❤️ Is the latest draft available somewhere? Similarly to the previous MISRA rulesets, I suppose this is not freely available due to licensing topics. I think you need to contact the MISRA org <https://misra.org.uk/>, but INAL. @elBoberido <https://github.com/elBoberido> AFAIK you had some contact with Peter Sommerlad. Is there something you can share? No, I did not (yet). My latest status is the following from the article he wrote on heise.de <https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/MISRA-C-bietet-Richlinien-und-Konformitaet-auch-fuer-neuen-Sprachstandard-C-20-4980750.html?seite=all> end of 2020. Let me just ping him here :-) @PeterSommerlad <https://github.com/PeterSommerlad> Thanks for your great work on the MISRA-C++:202x ruleset! Do you have an ETA for its release or could provide a contact to ask (possibly via a private message)? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2075 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AANFLFKGOWQOTAEE6I5MSFDYDIB7HAVCNFSM6AAAAAA63LSOJOVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM3TIOJXGEZTI>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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[elBoberido]

@PeterSommerlad thanks very much