[Cinnamon][shortcut] Super + 0 to open 10th pinned app

[awvalenti]

I love this feature: open/minimize pinned apps with keys Super + number. It currently only works with 1-9 (first to ninth pinned app).
I'd like to be able to do the same to the 10th pinned app by pressing Super + 0 (yes, I have 10 apps that I use all the time).
Is there a reason not to support 0 (10th app)? If so, can I enable it via some config?
Thanks!

[awvalenti]

The answer would likely be in this file:

• Local: /usr/share/cinnamon/applets/[email protected]/applet.js
• Remoite: https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/blob/master/files/usr/share/cinnamon/applets/grouped-window-list%40cinnamon.org/applet.js

There are two places with this snippet:

            for (let i = 1; i < 10; i++) {

We'd need to start in 0, but probably some places would need to distinguish between 0 and 10.

[awvalenti]

Ideas from: https://superuser.com/questions/1548836/how-to-disable-supern-shortcuts-in-cinnamon

[klangman]

I love this feature: open/minimize pinned apps with keys Super + number. It currently only works with 1-9 (first to ninth pinned app). I'd like to be able to do the same to the 10th pinned app by pressing Super + 0 (yes, I have 10 apps that I use all the time). Is there a reason not to support 0 (10th app)? If so, can I enable it via some config? Thanks!

I was thinking of doing this for my CassiaWindowList applet. Didn't know if anyone would appreciate the 0 key so I didn't bother, but I guess I can make the change now. Given the location of 0 on the keyboard I think it makes sense for 0 to activate the 10th window-list button. Come to think about it, I wonder why the 0 key is not on the left of the 1 key? I am sure there is a good reason for that.

[Secret-chest]

There is, initially typewriters only had 2-9, then 0 was added and they didn't want a jump from 0 to 2 so they put it at the end; 1 came last.

[awvalenti]

I'd really appreciate that change, thanks! There actually is a reason for 0 coming after 9: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oaWVhJ7XQmo

However, as a comment in this other video points out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQqv6RWzA4k): in the Hungarian layout, 0 does come before 1. So I think Super + 0 could be opt-int or, at least, configurable.

[klangman]

OK.. I added this feature to the Github development version of CassiaWindowList.

If you want this feature you would have to:

1. Switch from the default window-list to the CassiaWindowList applet. This window list applet has several differences to the default cinnamon window list so it possible it will not suit your tastes (but it's highly configurable, so you will likely to able to make it work to your liking).
2. The stable version of CassiaWindowList found in the system-setting Applets download tab does not does not yet have this new feature, so you will have to use the above link and follow the instructions to install the development version for now, or you could just wait some more time until I update the cinnamon-spices repo with the recent changes.

If you decide to try the dev version of CassiaWindowList then I would appreciate any feed back you might have on how the new feature works for you (or any other feedback on the applet in general).

[awvalenti]

I'm actually a little confused. Some questions:

1. Is CassiaWindowList part of Cinnamon?
2. How to try the development version?
3. Will this become the default for Linux Mint?

[klangman]

I'm actually a little confused. Some questions:

1. Is CassiaWindowList part of Cinnamon?

Not really. It's a 3rd party applet, which I maintain in my personal GitHub repository but I also copy it's source into the Linux Mint cinnamon-spices-applets Github repository. Any changes I make are then reviewed by someone from the Linux Mint team and if it's acceptable to them and follows the rules then the changes are accepted. Applets in the cinnamon-spices-applets repo show up in Cinnamon under system-setting in the "Applets" tool on the "Downloads" tab.

2. How to try the development version?

Applets can be installed manually or by using the "Applets" tool. Using the "Applets" tool will allow you to install any applets that exist in the cinnamon-spices-applets Github repo, but you can also manually install an applet by putting it's code into the ~/.local/share/cinnamon/applets directory (which is what the Applets tool does for you when you download a new Applet from the Download tab). For Applets that are not in the cinnamon-spices-applets Github repo you must manually install it.

Since I have not yet pushed the latest CassiaWindowList features to Mint's cinnamon-spices-applets Github repo, the new features are currently only available if you install it manually from my personal Github repo. There are instructions on my repo on how to manually install CassiaWindowList from my repo.

3. Will this become the default for Linux Mint?

The CassiaWindowList will never become the default Linux Mint window list. The default GroupedWindowList is sufficient for most people so there is no need to complicate things any further. This is why there are 3rd party applets, to help fill a need for power users.

Hope this helps clarify things.

[awvalenti]

It clarified a lot, thanks!

[cplittlfield]

for (let i = 1; i < 10; i++) { ... }

The idiom is ( i=0; I<10; i++). If you make it ( i=1; I<11; i++), then the tenth window becomes Alt + 1 + 0, instead of the first through tenth windows being numbered 0-9, respectively.

Personally, I just cycle through the open windows with Alt + Tab, since my mind could never hold the open windows and their numbers together. I'd always open window 3 when I really wanted window 7, or whatever. 🤣

[klangman]

for (let i = 1; i < 10; i++) { ... }

The idiom is ( i=0; I<10; i++). If you make it ( i=1; I<11; i++), then the tenth window becomes Alt + 1 + 0, instead of the first through tenth windows being numbered 0-9, respectively.

Not sure I am following you here.

Personally, I just cycle through the open windows with Alt + Tab, since my mind could never hold the open windows and their numbers together. I'd always open window 3 when I really wanted window 7, or whatever. 🤣

Ya, I rarely use the +(1-9) hotkeys since I don't know which window it will activate without having to think about it or use the hotkey to show to number labels. I use Cassia's ability to assign specific hotkeys for different application types (i.e Alt+Super+T = Terminal, Alt+Super+W = Web Browser, etc..). Actually most often I use Cassia's smart numeric hotkeys to use Alt-Super+(1-9) to activate one of the terminal windows I have open. I can remember which terminal window has what in it and so this works for me, and if it's not the right terminal, then I reorder the window list so that it's the right numbering.

[cplittlfield]

I don't know if you've explored the wealth of shortcuts available in the Cinnamon settings, but there are a surprising number of them, and they are highly customizable. So anything Cassia can't handle, Cinnamon itself might be able to.

[klangman]

I don't know if you've explored the wealth of shortcuts available in the Cinnamon settings, but there are a surprising number of them, and they are highly customizable. So anything Cassia can't handle, Cinnamon itself might be able to.

I did look at the shortcut options before I added the hotkey support to Cassia, I didn't want to duplicate anything that Cinnamon had built in. So I think the hotkey support in Cassia is new functionality or functionality to match the hotkey support in the Cinnamon grouped window list applet.

[klangman]

The CassiaWindowList applet now has this feature in the new 2.4.3 version that was published yesterday. By default the Super+0 key will activate the 10th window on the window list. Any "smart numeric hotkeys" you configure will now include "0" as the tenth application window to activate.